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Why is it hated so?

ludsoeludsoe Registered Posts: 4
edited July 2013 in General #1
Registered a account to ask one thing. Why do you guys hate Environments?

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  • KanzukeKanzuke Registered, Moderator Posts: 181
    Well, my personal gripe was with the method for creating artificial atmospheres, it could only be done inside props, so if you made your ship out of boring small/med/modbridge corridors you were fine, but the creative builders who built from vanilla props for example couldn't get an artificial climate.
    I also disliked how it replaced everyone's player model with a space suit, and how that space suit model was incredibly glitchy. See below:

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    This one may not be entirely related, but this only happened while environments was on. So I'm going to blame it


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  • ludsoeludsoe Registered Posts: 4
    The suits can be disabled. Also i can talk with the developer about some sort of ranged suit filling device. If those are the only problems things can be fixed.
  • LtBrandonLtBrandon Registered, Administrator Posts: 507
    ludsoe wrote:
    The suits can be disabled. Also i can talk with the developer about some sort of ranged suit filling device. If those are the only problems things can be fixed.
    There were numerous problems that occurred almost at random while environments was installed, unless its changed a great deal most of the issues will probably still happen. Switching from spacebuild 3 to environments is a rather large task on our server, as a lot of our content relies heavily on things that are rather different in environments, such as environment variables and entity names. Personally I found its client-side interfaces rather intrusive and annoying while it was installed, and, from memory, while it was active our player count lowered for a while. Honestly the only good thing I remember about our environments test run was Cmdr Matthew turning into Satan because of a bug in the suits.

    Rather than ask us only why we dislike it, you should probably have pointed out reasons it is better than normal sb3 in any way.
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  • ludsoeludsoe Registered Posts: 4
    Well after thinking, and running my own server with environments installed. (Not having problems with it at all) I think the problems were on your side. Not to mention that the client side huds, are interchangeable.
  • NinjrKillrNinjrKillr Registered Posts: 175
    ludsoe wrote:
    Well after thinking, and running my own server with environments installed. (Not having problems with it at all) I think the problems were on your side. Not to mention that the client side huds, are interchangeable.

    Well, yeah. Brandon just said that ;). A lot of our custom content (of which we have a lot) is tightly intertwined with SpaceBuild itself, and so to switch to Environments we would need to go through a fuckload of files and rewrite a lot. Besides that, though - I approve of Brandon's request to have you list out what you see as the potential benefits to us actually switching over.

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  • LtBrandonLtBrandon Registered, Administrator Posts: 507
    NinjrKillr wrote:
    ludsoe wrote:
    Well after thinking, and running my own server with environments installed. (Not having problems with it at all) I think the problems were on your side. Not to mention that the client side huds, are interchangeable.

    Well, yeah. Brandon just said that ;). A lot of our custom content (of which we have a lot) is tightly intertwined with SpaceBuild itself, and so to switch to Environments we would need to go through a fuckload of files and rewrite a lot. Besides that, though - I approve of Brandon's request to have you list out what you see as the potential benefits to us actually switching over.
    Why are we necroing this poor thread? It was resting in pieces until a bit ago D;
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  • NinjrKillrNinjrKillr Registered Posts: 175
    LtBrandon wrote:
    Why are we necroing this poor thread? It was resting in pieces until a bit ago D;

    Because he came back and saw responses? I'unno. Didn't realise it was a necro, I only responded because it had new posts.

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